Pascal Finette on What Clients Pay Accountants For, Outlearning AI and the Future of Firms
Episode Summary
Pascal Finette, Co-Founder & Chief Heretic of radical, joins Kacee Johnson to explore why AI is impacting cognitive work faster than routine work and what that means for organizations trying to adapt. They also discuss why employees still hesitate to trust AI systems and why the ability to outlearn competitors may become more important than the technology itself.
Hosted by Kacee Johnson, fintech innovation leader and Principal at Radical, AI-Native Accounting is the podcast at the crossroads of AI and the future of finance. Engage in monthly discussions with firm owners, tech pioneers, and visionary accountants. Explore real-world applications of AI, uncovering how it's streamlining processes and enhancing decision-making. Discover what's working, what's emerging, and what's on the horizon in the world of accounting technology.
Featured Guest
Pascal Finette
Co-Founder & Chief Heretic of radical
Pascal Finette is the Co-Founder of radical, a boutique advisory firm that helps leaders build organizations that strengthen under stress. Over nearly three decades in technology, Pascal has run parts of era-defining companies – eBay, Mozilla, Google.org. At eBay, he founded the Platform Solutions Group in Europe. At Mozilla, he led the Open Innovation Lab and Office of the Chair. As Principal at Google.org, he invested in social impact organizations globally. He also served as faculty chair for entrepreneurship at Singularity University. Pascal is the bestselling author of “Disrupt Disruption: How to Decode the Future, Disrupt Your Industry, and Transform Your Business” and the new book “OUTLEARN: The Art of Learning Faster Than the World Can Change” – a practical operating system for building organizations that get stronger under stress. He founded GYSHIDO, a global productivity movement, and co-founded The Women’s Impact Alliance. Called a “prophet” by Germany’s ARD television and named one of the top 100 Internet influencers by Wirtschaftswoche, Pascal brings refreshing honesty and zero tolerance for BS to helping leaders navigate uncertainty. He teaches masterclasses at leading business schools worldwide.
Your Host
Kacee Johnson
Digits Advisor & Innovation Partner
Kacee Johnson is a leading figure in the accounting profession, recognized among Accounting Today's Top 100 Most Influential People, CPA Practice Advisor's Top 25 Thought Leaders, and as one of the Most Powerful Women in Accounting. She advises AICPA and CPA.com as an innovation partner and leads the Startup Accelerator program, mentoring startups that shape the profession's future. In 2025, she completed Harvard Business School's Executive Program on Private Equity and Venture Capital and joined the be radical team as a Principal in FinTech Innovation.
